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ssjr black vs beerus
Topic Started: Aug 29 2016, 08:33 AM (1,651 Views)
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Last episode showed me Base Black > SSJB Vegeta. Vegeta said he was gonna bury Black and didn't look like he was holding back at all during any part of the fight. Black was smiling while Vegeta was laying a beating on him.

If that's true, and SSJR gives the same boost as SSJB (which I'd put well over 10x), then SSJR should be stronger than SSJB + Kaioken x10.
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If that's true, then Vegeta shouldn't really have been able to block SSJ Rose Black's punch if he's now more or less 10x stronger. Shouldn't his punch have completely overpowered Vegeta?
Feat-wise, his power-up didn't seem to be anything spectacular. SSJ Rose Black pretty much did to Vegeta what Black did in base - tank Vegeta's attacks and attack back once.
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It can be explained by SSJR Black toying with Vegeta, otherwise SSJR ends up weaker than Base going by feats.
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Aug 30 2016, 07:24 PM
Squall Strife
Aug 30 2016, 07:36 AM
Not too sure about Beerus being leagues above everyone @ this time.


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Beerus look nervous in this shot when asked if he would have trouble against Goku if he used kaio-ken in a hypothetical fight.




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Beerus says no, but Whis's expression implies otherwise.

Note: Goku was @ kaio-ken x2 when that comment was made.

Champa also looked startled when Goku & Hit both glared @ him.

Beerus has been known to lie in the past (Monaka?). So he might be lying in this instance.

ssj Rose Goku Black is even stronger than kaio-ken ×10 ssj Blue Goku, @ least I think he is.

So it's shown or @ least implied, he's not leagues above them.

I'll just say ssj Rose Goku Black wins for now until otherwise stated or implied in future episodes. lol
I disagree. He looks more angry than anything.Beerus knows goku is training with whis to get stronger and he has and beerus knows that if goku ever gets on his level that the kaioken technique can put him above beerus and beat him. Hell champa was certain that he could kill hit easy.


Well, he didn't act angry. There has beem instances shown the differences between when he is angry & when he is conspicous to say the least.
Whis looks uncertain of what Beerus said.

The "knowing" statements could he just specualtion as there is nothing concrete to prove these as true or not.


Also, ssj Rose Goku Black powered down against Vegeta which implies he can't control the level of ki he puts out that well.

So it's leery to put ssj Rose Goku Black>ssj Blue kaio-ken times 10 Goku vice versa.

There was a power down so I'll just go with ssj Rose Goku >ssj blue kaio-ken times 10
& it doesn't contradict to what is shown atm. lol

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Aug 30 2016, 08:43 PM
I'm curious why people think Black is stronger than 10x Kaioken SSJ Blue Goku? Did Goku get 10x stronger since the U6 vs U7 tournament? From what we've seen, Black is slightly superior to SSJ Blue Goku at the moment.
yes exactly. Goku and vegeta both admitted that they hit their max, after the rosat they barely increased. So i dont think goku get any stronger after the battle with Hit.


KK10 ssjb would murderstomp SSJR black. since I think the power difference between ssjb goku and black is maybe 10% in favor of black

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